That’s So Gay

This seems to have been the week for pop culture gayness. First, there was Johnny Weir’s response to the homophobic comments that were aimed his way from sportscasters during the Olympics:

Then there was a huge uproar over a lesbian kiss between Olivia and Kathy Griffin’s character on SVU. First the scene was leaked:

Then there was a response:

NBC cuts homophobic scene from Law & Order SVU episode “PC”

[Disclaimer: I was one of the people that tweeted the Executive Producer about the comment.]

There seems to be some confusion over why these issues are even worth discussing. They’re just words, right?

Here are some of the things said about Johnny Weir’s performance:

This may not be politically correct…But do you think he lost points due to his costume and his body language?

We should make him pass a gender test at this point.

all the boys who skate will end up like him … It sets a bad example.

They don’t leave anything in the locker room these blokes, do they?
They don’t leave anything in the closet either, do they?

These are some of the things said on the SVU Fans Message Board concerning the scene from SVU being cut:

I thought the scene and remark she was actually a little humorous and not offensive at all. People are so uptight these days.

I’m just scratching my head at this, that people are so upset over a little joke, I mean if she had said it maliciously then I would understand the outrage better.

Utterly STUPID>

Honestly, if a show causes people this much stress/anxiety over a scene, maybe it’s time to find a new show?

There was nothing homophobic about the statement itself. I understand that homophobia exists but people need to get out of the mindset of seeing homophobia in every single slight to a gay individual.

The comment to the other cop at the end was not homophobic at all. I took it in reference of yes, the kiss – of course, who wouldn’t wanna get away and never come back(??)

Lemme ask again: They’re just words, right?

Think B4 You Speak


11 thoughts on “That’s So Gay

  1. Stephen Raulli says:

    I don’t watch the show but am outraged that they would cut a lesbian kiss. Seriously? I watched an episode where it showed a woman stab herself in the genitals. But a same-sex kiss is what’s deemed too inappropriate for television? I’m sorry but it fucking pisses me off. Ignorant assholes who blow things out of proportion. I was abroad when Adam Lambert gave that performance, so was only able to see the blow up on the internet–which was more than enough. I’ll admit he went a little far when he shoved the guy’s head in his crotch. And it was stupid of people to compare it to Britney Madonna because the latter was on MTV. But to ban Adam from Kimmel and new Year’s? Well, Jennifer Lopez was on that New Year’s special, and what did she do? Well this married mother of two stuck her dancer’s head down there, and he proceeded to spin her. Am I saying she should “act her age?” No. I’m just saying it’s a double standard. Adam was raked across the coals for being too racy for a family awards show, but lopez does the same thing where I’m sure even more families are watching and….nothing. More people talked about that ugly thing she wore. Personally, both performances were bad vocally; but it’s all about the show not the voice for some performers.

    People who aren’t at least a little upset about the scene cut are allowing censorship to happen right in front of them. And I have yet to hear if those sportscasters were suspended. An ESPN sportscaster was suspended for making remarks about a female colleague’s outfit. I guess he’d still be there had she been a lesbian because if this week shows us anything–it’s ok to pick on gay people.

    Fuck our ignorant society.

    • Michele says:

      I’m sorry, Stephen, but I couldn’t get past “I don’t watch the show…” Um, hello? Elliot? Olivia? How can you not watch SVU?

      I got you covered…I have another ep for Cheryl’s Discourses of Rape class. Aren’t you excited?!

      • Stephen Raulli says:

        The ep was effective that we watched. I’m writing a martini article about this stupid issue. It really pisses me off.

      • Stephen, I have something to add to your comment about sportscasters. I don’t remember exactly what the ESPN ones said about Weir, but I do remember the ones at the Olympics making comments on Johnny’s flamboyant costume (I think that was the word they used). Scott Hamilton must’ve talked about a tassel on Weir’s shirt for a good five minutes. (It was his short program costume if I remember correctly.) And other commentators made other typical comments—his “one of a kind personality” and his “attention to detail [in reference to his costumes].” Weir hasn’t officially come out yet, so the commentators can’t make any blatant accusations, but a lot of their comments definitely toe the line.

  2. I love Johnny Weir. He skated to Lady GaGa. He’s an Olympic athlete. And most importantly, he’s not afraid to be himself.

    In the world of professional athletes – and in ice-skating specifically – the industry and the media have certain expectations of how individuals are supposed to look, act, and play/compete. Although the media dictates a lot of these unofficial rules, it’s ultimately up to the athletes whether or not they embrace what’s expected of them.

    Take for example Tiger Woods. (Sorry, Amaury, I know you’re sick of him.) Most sports commentators, analysts, and fans will argue that he’s the best golfer in the world. Because he’s a part of the pro golf world, and one of its most recognizable faces, Tiger is expected to act how said industry dictates—professional (no profanity during competitions), approachable (during press conferences and TV commercials), and wholesome (and be a family man). But ultimately, Woods failed to abide by society’s expectations. He became increasingly rude during matches, swearing up a storm every time he missed a put. He did not come across as friendly and approachable on TV commercials. (In fairness to him, he was standing alongside Derek Jeter in the Gillette advertisement, who is a definite extrovert.) And above all, he led two different lives—one of the father, husband, and reserved yet respected pro golfer; the other of a sex-crazed cheater who only thought about himself.

    And that’s why I respect Johnny Weir. He’s a professional athlete, who has dedicated his entire life to ice-skating, training day after day, year after year for a shot at an Olympic gold medal. Anyone who possesses that dedication, that drive, that desire – whether they’re an athlete or not – is someone who deserves respect.

    Johnny’s not afraid to be himself. While other ice-skaters want to portray themselves as more “heterosexual” (like Evan Lysacek), Weir stays true to himself. He picks his own music and his own costumes. Although commentators and bloggers poke fun at him, Johnny’s just doing him. And in today’s world, that’s refreshing.

  3. Michele says:

    Stephen, if you are planning on something about the Weir issue (I assume, not the SVU issue), this will be a good video for you to look at since they break down the comments:

  4. Lauri-Anne Phillip says:

    I LOVE LOVE wanda and im so glad she made a comerical like that. I don’t know if she wrote her lines for that commercial but you can tell that she believes it in the core of her being. I was lucky to have gone to a school in which saying “that’s so gay” was not tolerated at all. It never became a part of my vocabulary. It’s so conditioned in the vocabulary of so many males especially here at HWS that many don’t realize how ignorant there statements are and more importantly don’t realize the damaging affects there words have on the people around them.

    • Obi Juan Breton says:

      Wanda Sykes has made a tremendous impact, and is an icon of the comedic world. The word “gay” used as a derogatory term has been a part of my vocabulary since grammar school where curse words and derogatory run rampant because they’re so new, at the time at least. This isn’t something I’m proud of but unlike Lauri-Anne Phillip(the post before), every school or program I was a part of never cracked down on the use of terms like “gay” or “faget”. And in turn I use words like the two mentioned before at least 10 times a day. But even homosexuals like Wanda Sykes, make fun of (I don’t know how else to describe it) gaynessnecity. I’m not saying that I go out and make fun of gay people, I’m merely saying that if you make fun of yourself you can’t expect others to not jump on the band wagon. To me if its funny its funny. And the phrase, “You’re ignorant,” should not pertain to anyone unless it is done to try and break someone down. Gay jokes are just as funny as black jokes or jokes about women or any joke for that matter. And those who make these jokes relate in some way to the people they are joking about.

  5. Alex Cragg says:

    I recently asked my uncle who is gay what he thought about the phrase “that’s so gay” and he said that he knows that it’s a problem but he says it too. He said it personally doesn’t bother him or his partner but he knows many people, gay and straight that it does bother and he wants to stop saying it. I know that I have said it way too many times and I feel terrible each time I let it slip out of my mouth, just as I do when I say “that’s so retarded”. I cringe when other people say it yet I still say it myself. Of course it’s a problem to use someone’s sexual orientation as a way of saying something it stupid but it’s a phrase that is extremely popular in our culture. I don’t know if the population as a whole will ever stop saying it completely but a good way to start is with yourself.

  6. Bre Nasypany says:

    In a recent study conducted by Osborne & Wagner (2007), a sample of 1470 high students were asked to answer yes/no questions about their personal beliefs on the topic of homophobia. The research found that in general males are nearly two and a half times more likely than females to express homophobic beliefs. When looking at the participation in athletics and the expression of homophobic beliefs, the researchers found males to be three times more likely than non-athletic participating males to express these beliefs. There were no significantly profound differences between the expression of homophobic beliefs for females who participate in sports and those who do not.

    What does this say about our ideology of sport? The manner in which masculinity is constructed and viewed must have a significant impact on male’s beliefs and attitudes toward gay and lesbian athletes and towards LGBTQ people in general. Sport offers males the opportunity to build a masculine identity because that’s how we view sports, as masculine. Because we are taught this from a young age, as soon as we see something that does not fit into the stereotypical categories of masculine and feminine and see someone who refuses to conform to it, we immediately consider them gay and not fit to compete in the athletic arena with the “masculine” men because they are so “feminine.” And the lesbian women are good at sports and are supposedly the star athletes and the ones that everyone fears to play against because they lack femininity.

    There are a ton of issues to consider here… why sports are considered masculine, why people think you have to be a straight male or a lesbian to be good at sports, and even why people think gay men can’t express masculine characteristics and lesbian women feminine characteristics. Where was I when all of this was decided and when can we change it?

  7. Emily D'Addario says:

    The fear of being gay is a powerful social control in athletics. Sports continue to serve a critical function in maintaining traditional gender roles and power imbalances between men and women. It is the cultural interconnections between homophobia and sexism that develop a sense of entitlement in heterosexual athletes. This overarching power makes it difficult for teams to openly address such an uncomfortable issue.

    Homophobia is detrimental to both the team and the individual; people fear association with the negative stigma as they expect it to permanently destroy their desired status. Athletes who begin to feel devalued are reassured of their heterosexuality by displaying contempt for homosexuals. In addition, males avoid expressing any signs of empathy and sensitivity and females reduce their strong, assertive edge. Most young athletes conform to this ongoing cycle because it is the easiest path to take in such a competitive environment. Even in a mostly positive setting where long hours are spent together, emotions are high, and teammates are close, many individuals still feel like the minority having to silently hide in secrecy.

    Teammates, coaches, and parents don’t encourage children to make big noises. It is better to look good, conform to the majority, and pass by in the background rather than make choices that draw attention. Women are told to be seen but not heard and men are directed to be powerful and invulnerable. More and more behaviors of younger generations are intended to fulfill expectations rather than explore gender issues for themselves. It is no surprise that if we don’t let athletes work through their own problems and come to their own conclusions than we will get teams lacking mature, conscious, healthy role models. Taking conscious actions and being our true selves will eliminate fear and allow others to accept us as who we really are. Those who can understand and accept those different from themselves will be able to use one another as a source for strength rather than fear.

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